The SSD (Holy Grail) can finally be YOURS !

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Re: The SSD (Holy Grail) can finally be YOURS !

Post by fas000 » Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:56 am

mstsfreak wrote:I have boot version 1.10 of nov. 9th 2005.
Hi. i have same boot version (1.10) and SATA external drive is not detect.

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Re: The SSD (Holy Grail) can finally be YOURS !

Post by mstsfreak » Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:39 pm

fas000 wrote:
mstsfreak wrote:I have boot version 1.10 of nov. 9th 2005.
Hi. i have same boot version (1.10) and SATA external drive is not detect.
That is strange! My Fusion did detect the drive....

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Re: The SSD (Holy Grail) can finally be YOURS !

Post by Jesse » Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:30 pm

What type of SATA drive SATA I (1.5 Gb/s), II (3 Gb/s) or III (6 Gb/s)?

SSD or standard hard drive?

Also what manufacture date does your Fusion show?
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Re: The SSD (Holy Grail) can finally be YOURS !

Post by Jesse » Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:45 am

Those of you that installed an SSD IDE drive in your Fusion,
1. How about a report on what you like about it.
2. Is it working properly or have you had any problems?

I have ordered a 64 Gb SATA II SSD drive that I will be testing by using an IDE to SATA adapter, if it works great, if not I will use it in an old computer and then buy an IDE SATA SSD drive for my Fusion :)
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Re: The SSD (Holy Grail) can finally be YOURS !

Post by mstsfreak » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:04 am

Jesse wrote:Those of you that installed an SSD IDE drive in your Fusion,
1. How about a report on what you like about it.
2. Is it working properly or have you had any problems?
1. It is very quiet, that is, it is silent.... :mrgreen: . I like the fact that it is much less vulnerable than the "normal" drive. I now can take the synth to a gig without being worried about the drive getting distorted after a bumpy road or after bumpy roadies :lol: . The area above the powersupply is cooler than before, it still runs warm, but less than before.

2. It works fine, but it is not faster than the old drive, i think due to PIO-mode 1. I did not have any problems with it so far. I am very happy with it.

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Post by Jesse » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:52 pm

Awesome, glad to hear it :)

I have been doing some experimenting with cooling down the PSU an will post the very good results later today 8)
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Post by Ron Fuller » Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:17 pm

er um aaaahmmm...cool :lol:

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Post by mstsfreak » Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:20 pm

Jesse wrote:Awesome, glad to hear it :)

I have been doing some experimenting with cooling down the PSU an will post the very good results later today 8)
Looking forward to this!

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Post by Jesse » Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:57 pm

Fusion load times
[quote source="/post/17777/thread" timestamp="1400635568" author="@parametric"][quote source="/post/17772/thread" timestamp="1400549039" author="@jesse"]I have that I will run it and a few of the piano's from the Ultimate Piano Collection, which I believe you have also

Ultimate Piano Collection -    FAZ.DYN.32-11 Samples 37.2 MB Time to load Maxtor 40GB IDE/PATA HD 18.4 seconds (parametric Kingspec 128GB PATA SSD 23.58) (WD1600SB 160GB IDE/PATA HD 16.3 seconds)

Ultimate Piano Collection - STWD.DYN 32-11 Samples 35.3 MB Time to load Maxtor 40GB IDE/PATA HD 18.0 seconds (parametric Kingspec 128GB PATA SSD 18.32) (WD1600SB 160GB IDE/PATA HD 15.9 seconds)

Ultimate Piano Collection -        BOES.LD HI1 Samples 37.0 MB Time to load Maxtor 40GB IDE/PATA HD 18.2 seconds (parametric Kingspec 128GB PATA SSD 18.61) (WD1600SB 160GB IDE/PATA HD 16.0 seconds)
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My Working Fusion - Open Fusion - PSU(old version)Primary Heat Sink Temp(the short one)
Note: Temperatures shown below are the Peak Temperatures observed.
The Heat Sink Temperatures cycled between 118.7°F and 123.3°F with no activity on the Fusion, The Fusion was simply Idle.
HD Storage Device Primary Heat Sink Peak Temp Measured
Maxtor 40GB IDE/PATA HD 123.3°F
Kingspec 64GB PATA SSD 123.3°F
WD 160GB IDE/PATA HD 122.5°F
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Re: The SSD (Holy Grail) can finally be YOURS !

Post by sonicwarrior » Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:42 pm

So the loading times are worse, the temperature is worse?

Seems there is no real reason for an SSD than maybe a bit longer life time and mechanical robustness then? :?

Btw. I found the following 40 pin to 44 pin adapter cable in a German online shop with local stores:
http://www.kmcomputer.de/pc-komponenten ... u/st-molex

I'm still unsure about the worthness of replacing the harddrive with an SSD.

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Re: The SSD (Holy Grail) can finally be YOURS !

Post by parametric » Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:48 am

I agree, it would have been NICE if the loading times would have been shorter (as SSD promises), but I guess its prevented by the Fusion's controller . . . .

My own perception is that its not much different - so I'm not too unhappy . .

I DO perceive that the 8HD IS running cooler than I remember with the WD 80GB I had previously.

I think its fair to say that ANYTHING that reduces the load on the PSU has got to be good - given the history of PSU failures that the Fusion has.

The extra space is nice, though an HDD can also provide that.

The move to SSD HAS to be good for those gigging their Fusions though. On-the-Road is NOT a nice place for HDDs.

So, if you're NOT Gigging, then I would say that the move to SSD could be considered "optional"

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Re: The SSD (Holy Grail) can finally be YOURS !

Post by Jesse » Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:06 am

While the PSU temp was pretty much the same no matter which drive was connected (0.8°F is insignificant) the SSD drive it self runs cooler, consumes less power and is more reliable, if you have the expanded memory installed initial loads times probably are not a real issue, at least not as far as loading programs go :)
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Re: The SSD (Holy Grail) can finally be YOURS !

Post by parametric » Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:23 pm

My original supplier for this project is showing another PATA SSD on his site . . .

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181331185517? ... EBIDX%3AIT

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Re: The SSD (Holy Grail) can finally be YOURS !

Post by ator » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:35 am

Hello Fusion people!
I read many posts of you, they are very interesting and helpful.

Can anyone confirm this? Please consider it's copy&paste from an old post (2006) from another site.
. I asked what the largest drive that could be installed in the Fusion was. The reply was 40gb. I said, "Sweetwater sells there version with an 80gb drive etc." The guy said, "yeah, a few left the factory with the 80gb drives but that was a mistake". I asked "why"? "Because any drive over 40gb can make the board unstable".
"Oh"....

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Re: The SSD (Holy Grail) can finally be YOURS !

Post by mstsfreak » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:19 am

This is NOT true! What this guy was saying is rubbish. The Fusion can work with a normal or SSD- drive at up to 120 gb maximum, without any problems. Bigger drives get only formatted to 120gb.

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